But what he [Stevo] liked most about Neubauten were the things we considered the least important—aspects of the work that we were trying to steer away from to avoid being pigeonholed as a band who were just about destroying everything. Although we did enjoy destroying things from time to time. He was into sensation and controversy, and always wanted us to play somewhere where we could tear down the whole building and get on the front page of The Sun or something. So, he didn't have a strong artistic understanding of what we were doing, but that didn't really matter. [Mark Chung]